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by DaviddesJ aldaryn wrote:Price is a huge part of it, whether people realize it or not. The price -says- something to you.No, it doesn't. Like I said, I formed my opinion of the game without having...
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by aldaryn DaviddesJ wrote:aldaryn wrote:Price is a huge part of it, whether people realize it or not. The price -says- something to you.No, it doesn't. Like I said, I formed my opinion of the game...
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by DaviddesJ aldaryn wrote:Sorry, should have said, the price says something to everyone except David. I bet I can find others out of the 7 billion people on earth who are completely indifferent to...
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by rickert I have to say that price doesn't mean quality or even depth to me. For me it just usually means the game needed a lot of components and/or it cost a lot to bring it to the U.S.
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by Kirenx Like David, I had no idea what the game cost. I played it a few times at a game store. I found that while not a terrible game in terms of design, it was too bland and simple for me to get...
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by jsciv I sat down to play it at Essen last year without knowing the price. I liked it (and still like it; in fact I played it on Sunday). There are plenty of people for whom "price" is on a...
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by qzhdad I didn't know how much it cost, but after two plays didn't want it.First play was ok (we played with two cards in hand and boards that gave actions). Second play blew chunks, we played with...
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by SamNzed Kirenx wrote:Like David, I had no idea what the game cost. I played it a few times at a game store. I found that while not a terrible game in terms of design, it was too bland and simple...
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by jsciv qzhdad wrote:I'd have preferred Candyland. At least there, you don't pretend that there is a choice after you draw a card.Popular zinger though that is, potshots at the game like that weaken...
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by Frank Hamrick DaviddesJ wrote:SparkingConduit wrote:I get the feeling like people aren't mad because this game isn't like a certain other game or because it's too simple. Really, I think the issue...
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by SamNzed rickert wrote:Certainly they hired the wrong designer.:laugh: He only has a previous Game of the Year to his credit, which virtually assures that his creation will get some notice right...
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by Vacabck I think that a lot of people just look at this game and see the ease of getting started and getting new players playing it and automatically dismiss it as "not deep" or "not that...
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by rickert SamNzed wrote:rickert wrote:Certainly they hired the wrong designer.:laugh: He only has a previous Game of the Year to his credit, which virtually assures that his creation will get some...
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by mugs chaddyboy_2000 wrote:I'm still confused as to why anyone sees Kingdom Builder as "too expensive". It's got 160 wooden houses, a deck of cards, and a whole bunch of punch sheets. There's a lot...
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by DaviddesJ Frank Hamrick wrote:You're either WAY smarter than me, or we're not playing the same game, David! Of course, it could be that our tastes are different. Well, probably all of those are...
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by russ DaviddesJ wrote:I don't understand putting something like Dominion in the same category---all of the interest of Dominion comes from deciding how to combine the different powers available,...
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by DaviddesJ russ wrote:Do you suppose your assessment of the game would change if you played a non-random variant where you simply choose a terrain type each turn on which to build your 3 mandatory...
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by TheNevin I always think Queen games are a bit overpriced, but I never found Kingdom Builder any worse than normal. You get a full game's worth of components, and it's pretty fun.However, I am...
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by JohnnyDollar TheNevin wrote:the vaunted "Queen production values" still couldn't result in cards and boards whose backs matched my original set, I'm disappointed.One little tip I've been using: I...
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by adamw I thought I would hate it, but after buying and playing, turns out I kinda like it.The initial hate wasn't about price (although I commonly grumble about that) because I had confidence Queen...
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by russ JohnnyDollar wrote:One little tip I've been using: I used to shuffle the boards themselves to pick (in which case backs need to match), but I got worries about wear and tear on the points of...
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by JohnnyDollar russ wrote:JohnnyDollar wrote:One little tip I've been using: I used to shuffle the boards themselves to pick (in which case backs need to match), but I got worries about wear and tear...
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by rickert What I have done is assign each board a number (1-12 right now). I roll a D12 4 times and get the boards. When more boards come I will need to adjust. I've also started rolling a D6 each...
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by Eric Brosius If I liked the game, I'd be happy to pay what it costs. If I like a game, I'm going to play it for hundreds of hours, so the purchase price is immaterial, even if it's $100.I didn't...
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by pdoherty SparkingConduit wrote:I get the feeling like people aren't mad because this game isn't like a certain other game or because it's too simple. Really, I think the issue is that it's just too...
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by qzhdad Fair enough, Candyland is a harsh comparison, but it is much shorter...I felt that I had a meaningful decision approximately every third turn. On the other turns, there was no decision or a...
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by jsciv qzhdad wrote:I felt that I had a meaningful decision approximately every third turn. On the other turns, there was no decision or a very obvious best choice. I will say that the variant of...
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by Butterfly0038 qzhdad wrote:I felt that I had a meaningful decision approximately every third turn. On the other turns, there was no decision or a very obvious best choice. If you really feel this...
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by DaviddesJ Butterfly0038 wrote:If you really feel this way, then KB is way better than Dominion, where the only meaningful decisions come up in the first few turns of the game and most of the rest...
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by richiebabes When I play Dominion (or any game for that matter) I never think of a strategy. I just go for what looks best each time my turn comes round. I think I am a non-strategic tactician....
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by pdoherty DaviddesJ wrote:Frank Hamrick wrote:You're either WAY smarter than me, or we're not playing the same game, David! Of course, it could be that our tastes are different. Well, probably all...
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by animatedmax SparkingConduit wrote:I get the feeling like people aren't mad because this game isn't like a certain other game or because it's too simple. Really, I think the issue is that it's just...
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by DaviddesJ pdoherty wrote:No inflated ego there, nope not at all. :whistle:I agree with you there. I'm also probably a worse singer than you. My ego isn't implicated either way, different people are...
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by jefftang When I saw the review and tried out KB, the first thought that came to mind was this would be a great game to play with family and/or kids. Except it's at a price level that is not going...
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by DaviddesJ jefftang wrote:When I saw the review and tried out KB, the first thought that came to mind was this would be a great game to play with family and/or kids. Except it's at a price level...
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by mvettemagred DaviddesJ wrote:jefftang wrote:When I saw the review and tried out KB, the first thought that came to mind was this would be a great game to play with family and/or kids. Except it's...
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by qwertymartin JohnnyDollar wrote:This game is actually crying out for a randomizer app like Rattus has. iPhone Randomizer App, now in the app store
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by Uneyed trenttsd wrote:SparkingConduit wrote:I mean, for $50, I expect some meat in my games.I prefer my board games not to include meat, as I'm a vegetarian. Plus it would be very messy, unless it...
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by VonKrumm Purchased KB retail in Australia for about the same as US prices.We have only played 4 games and think it is great because of the variability, both in the maps and the scoring mechanisms....
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by JohnnyDollar VonKrumm wrote:I think the price is about right, but, as always, the box could be about 33% smaller and still fit all the components. Cupboard space is always at a premium in our...
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by msaari Actually, I did the other way around: I put everything in the Nomads box and tossed the base box. The Nomads box is smaller!
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by sunwukung I couldn't agree more, this game is marketed as a family game, and in that regard it's amazing. I've played it with a broad group of people (my wife, my hard core euro posse, my trasher...
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by DaviddesJ sunwukung wrote:I couldn't agree more, this game is marketed as a family game, and in that regard it's amazing. I've played it with a broad group of people (my wife, my hard core euro...
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by sunwukung Bang! That's the sound of a nail being hit squarely on the head...
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by qwertymartin DaviddesJ wrote:Is it a family game, or a filler? Those seem almost opposites.Nonsense. Both terms are generally used to refer to fairly light, fairly short, easy to teach games. Sure,...
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by DaviddesJ qwertymartin wrote:Nonsense. Both terms are generally used to refer to fairly light, fairly short, easy to teach games.I would have thought that people used "family games" to described...
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by qwertymartin DaviddesJ wrote:I would have thought that people used "family games" to described games played with families, and "filler" to describe games played as a filler.You're saying that they...
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by rickert I agree with Martin. the common usage for "filler" in this community and "family" are not in any way mutually exclusive and are both appropriate for KB. KB is deep enough to engage people...
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by qwertymartin A few games in the top 50 'family games' on BGG:7 WondersKing of TokyoFor SaleLost CitiesBibliosRoll Through the Ages: The Bronze AgeColorettoNo Thanks!Liar's DicePretty sure I have...
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by sunwukung DaviddesJ wrote:Is it a family game, or a filler? Those seem almost opposites. You only need to fill time between games if you're playing more heavy games.I think it's just a matter of...
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